Posts by The Searcher

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Reason's why it is so difficult to leave

by Truthexplorer in

1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.

3. the stress it will cause.

4. the thought of feeling isolated.

The Searcher

Some/all relevant reasons for faders. Personally, I would gladly discuss everything I've found with anyone & everyone I know in the org, but I control my overwhelming need to do so for my wife's sake. She's "out" too, but gently "feeds" her family whom she doesn't want to lose.

Your family could gently fade in your present congregation, and just accept being branded as "spiritually weak." Doing so would make some/all of your "friends" in the congregation distance themselves from you, for fear of being contaminated with your "weakness." Also, and much easier to deal with psychologically, the elders' attempts to "help" you. Simply say "private & personal issues to deal with, but thanks for your concern. We'll let you know if things change."

Moving home (if feasible) is a great way to start again - even if only to change congregations and immediately go "cold-turkey" for field-service & assemblies, and only attending meetings every few weeks or months.

Whatever works for you and your family.

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Are the Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets, perhaps being mentally manipulated by the Watchtower Corporation ? ?

by Finkelstein in

there is a lot of public scrutiny going on these days about the jw religion particularly on the inter - net.

one of the posed questions which gets debated and discussed quite often, are the jws false prophets instigated to preach a tainted commercialized gospel under the direction of the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation ?

these focused men who are responsible for creating the core doctrines of this organization.

The Searcher

The false prophets are the numerous charlatans running the WTBTS corporations. The 8 million minions are merely parroting what they've been told is "truth", unless of course they're trolley-watchers.

Many J.W.'s are unaware/unsure what the "current" truth is regarding some of their doctrines, due to the constant "new lights".

IMO the org is dying a death by 1000 cuts - thanks mainly to the internet/social media. The genie is out of the bottle and Brooklyn knows it, hence the massive money-grab from every congregation's bank accounts, culminating in the WTBTS's "Master Plan" (TM) to maximise auditorium capacity in Kingdom Halls by consolidating congregations and selling off Kingdom Halls wholesale.

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In love with a JW girl

by rastapau in

need advise.

i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

The Searcher

rastapau - I'm a fading J.W. so I can assure you that you will only suffer far more if you continue down the J.W. road. Once you're baptized, you will be subject to the rules and regulations of a money-making cult which masquerades as "God's organization." If you question their doctrines, practices, or finances, you'll see a very different side to "God's people."

You've been fortunate.

Run as fast as you can - your girlfriend is programmed to either have you recruited or booted.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Propaganda & Hypocrisy Video

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i didn't make this video it just showed up in my utube web page, god i love utube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyv5lg1uh0o.

The Searcher

I just telephoned Brooklyn to "confirm" that the brother in the video is a showbiz star over in the good ole U.S of A.

The 3rd person I was connected to (male with foreign accent) actually told me that it would be going against the "theocratic arrangement" to answer my question, and that I should go through my elders, they should contact Britain Branch, and Britain Branch should then contact Brooklyn!

When I questioned why he couldn't give me an answer, he said that my questioning seemed to indicate that I wasn't his brother, and then said "have a good rest of your day" (sic) - abruptly hanging up on me!

Well brother, if you're one of those poor paranoid sheep who depend on the org for bed & board, I can well appreciate your reasons for being ignorant and evasive when asked pertinent questions.

You have a "good rest of your day" - and life - because your golden calf is melting day by day!

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"Spiritual Israel" created in 1919 - not in 33C.E.

by The Searcher in

thanks to the "inspired expressions" of the fds/gb of jehovah's witnesses, not only are 99% of j.w.

's excluded from the new covenant, but apparently none of the first century christians are part of the "israel of god" - aka "spiritual israel.".

w14 11/15 p. 26 par.

The Searcher

Thanks to the "inspired expressions" of the FDS/GB of Jehovah's Witnesses, not only are 99% of J.W.'s excluded from the new covenant, but apparently none of the first century Christians are part of the "Israel of God" - aka "spiritual Israel."

w14 11/15 p. 26 par. 11 "Now You Are God’s People" "In 1919, Jehovah delivered them, making a clear distinction between them and "the weeds," or imitation Christians. He gathered "the sons of the Kingdom" into an organized people, in fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy: "Will a land be brought to birth in one day? Or will a nation be born all at once? Yet, as soon as Zion went into labor, she gave birth to her sons." (Isa. 66:8) Zion, Jehovah’s organization of spirit beings, brought forth her spirit-anointed sons and organized them into a nation."

ip-2 chap. 27 p. 398, 399 par. 16 Jehovah Blesses Pure Worship "In 1919 this "woman" rejoiced to see the birth of her anointed sons on earth as an organized people, "a nation."................."By the autumn of 1919, they even announced the publication of a new journal to complement The Watch Tower. Called The Golden Age (now Awake!), that new publication was evidence that God’s people were revitalized and once again organized for service."

I always thought that the "Israel of God" came into existence in one one day, back at Pentecost 33 C.E. - according to Acts chapter 2.

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Can someone help me

by stephanie61092 in

jw
friends

a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

i love you.

The Searcher

Hi Stephanie, your "friend" is being instructed by the org to make you feel guilty. Don't play their game and become their victim.

Tell her that the compulsion to obey the governing body regardless of what they say - not to mention that salvation is only available through their organization - seriously conflicts with what you've learned from your studies of the scriptures over the years. Make her examine what she's accepting as "truth." (1 John 4:1)

(Matthew 23:8-10) But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers.....Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.

(John 10:27) My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. (not seven false Christs in Brooklyn)

(Acts 4:12) ....there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved." (not even JWdotORG!)

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Hello all

by WhiskeySix in

jw
friends

i am new to this site and wanted to say hi.

my wife and i are recently disassociated.

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The Searcher

Welcome Whiskey6, very happy for you and your wife's total freedom.

Enjoy the rest of your lives!

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I have to get this off my chest...cult equals guilible

by Sour Grapes in

two weeks ago while visiting a friend in north carolina, i agreed to go with him to the sunday public talk.

the public talk was about how the witnesses have the direction of angels while going in service.

the speaker told some real doozies and you could hear the "oohs and ahhs" from the audience.

The Searcher

Just like the elder and his wife (in my previous congregation) who said that they'd been praying to Jehovah that they'd get the new house they needed - and voila, their prayers were answered!

J.W.'s who make such statements are being blindly dismissive and contradictory of a scripture which they enjoy sharing with non-JW.'s :

(Acts 10:34) "At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial...."

God is suddenly partial to them, but not to others in need of life's necessities???

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Hello

by TheAceInhibitor in

jw
friends

i've been lurking here for a while, but i figured i should say hello and introduce myself.

i haven't been attending the meetings for a couple months now and i'm a graduate pharmacist.

i look forward to getting to know people.

The Searcher

A very warm welcome Ace.

Have an enlightening time here!

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Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

by Nevuela in

my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

The Searcher

A few days ago I asked someone from my former congregation a question on this very topic. (someone with whom I have discussed everything I know regarding TTATT)

Despite agreeing with - or more usually being unable to deny what I'm saying - he takes the view that the org's "worldwide brotherhood" is the best there is! :(

Me: The org has prophesied for 140 years that the end is coming 'soon'. How soon is 'soon' to you?

Him: Well, the end is 140 years nearer now, and the fact that China is rapidly progressing to become the No.1 world power proves that the end must be very close now, because we know that the Anglo-American world power is the last one - as depicted by the statue in the book of Daniel.

Groan!